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Discussions about Messiah

The concept of Messiah is a Jewish concept rooted in the words of the Biblical prophets. Jews have been waiting for Messiah to come for centuries. Christianity was born out of the Jewish Messianic hope but Christians believe that the Messiah has already come in the form of Jesus and are waiting for his second coming. What are the differences between the Jewish and Christian beliefs regarding Messiah and are there any commonalities between them?

Sondra Oster Baras, an Orthodox Jew who has devoted her life to reaching out to Christians all over the world to bless Israel, presents a Jewish perspective on Messiah while her colleague Kim Troup, US Director of CFOIC Heartland, and Tommy Waller, Director of HaYovel, both Christian Zionists, explain how their attitudes towards Messiah differ from the Jewish one. You will be encouraged by the atmosphere of love and respect that permeates this interesting discussion on a critical issue that divides Christianity and Judaism. Watch this video and pass it on to your friends!

If there is a topic you would like to see Sondra and Tommy discuss in a future episode, please let us know. Send us your thoughts and questions at Kim@cfoic.com

8 thoughts on “Discussions about Messiah”

  1. You are like blind men, arguing about what an elephant is. To one, an elephant is like a tree, to another an elephant is like a rope, and to another, an elephant is like a snake. As each person argues for their biased perspective. This is shocking, because the truth is singular, and you are too blind to see it. For instance, is not a loving mother God’s representative, to her newborn baby? So, when looking for God’s love, this baby looks for Mum’s love, as though she is God, to her newborn baby, in some tangible way. If a lamb trusts God to save it from a lion, and I shoot the lion, have I usurped God’s authority, just because the lamb sees me as God? All limited intelligence is permitted to regard all loving higher-intelligence, as God, because from a spiritual perspective, God’s love flows through His Creation, which is why the Bible calls certain angelic messengers, God… even though God said, that no one could see His face, and live. So, when you know the truth, that God like a tree, with three main branches, leading up to millions of loving mothers, nurturing their children, you can see that God is entirely singular, and can be represented by the singular trunk of this tree. Although, further up this tree, God can also be represented by the three main branches, which refers to the Christian Trinity. Yet, a primitive tribesman is permitted to worship a missionary’s plane, as it flied overhead, as God, in preparation to accept God’s messenger, when he finally arrives, without it being regarded as idolatry.

  2. It is all about HaShem’s Kingdom; love, honor, and respect…do we not have 2 hands that work in tandem with one another…We need both hands!
    Great discussion….see you Sondra in Texas next month!

  3. Its true the messiah came and the Jews didn’t understand him. He came to establish God’s kingdom and his kingdom was not of this world. Many Jews expected him to sit on David’s throne, establish the independent state of Israel and free Israel from Romans. Otherwise both Christians and Jews believes in the same Messiah and are waiting for Him, though for Christians he is coming for the second time to execute judgments and take his elect to the heavenly kingdom.

  4. Let us focus on the things that unit us than those that divide us. The very existence of CFOIC shows that there is love that bridges the divide. Where one sees a divide, I see a folk on the road, where in the not so distance future we will all be fully reconciled. Let us focus our eyes beyond the chasm that divide us, but in due time the truth will be reviewed.
    The fact that there is a relationship between the Christians and Jews means there is commonality in our faiths. Let us walk in them.

  5. Sondra said that many Yisraelites people who read Yeshayahu believe that the Messiah has supernatural qualities, just like the Yisraelites people who wrote the writings in a Brit Hadashah (new covenant). Gentiles didn’t write the New Covenant. The New Covenant writings uses many Scriptures from the Tanak.

  6. If some Yisraelites believe that Father’s Spirit overshadow dirt and formed a man then blew into the nostril of that man who then became a living being, then why can’t those same people believe that Father’s Holy Spirit overshadowed a woman and created a living being with just her seed Luke some Yisraelites, like the 72 disciples, Paul, and many others who wrote the New Covenant believed and many Yisraelite followers of Yeshua believe today along with many Gentiles followers of Yeshua. Not all Gentiles or Yisraelites even believe in a Creator God. Some believe in a Creator but do not believe in a Yisraelite Messiah, Luke the Muslim who believe the Messiah is coming through Ishmael’s descendants.

  7. The biggest concern is the word ‘Trinity’ which is used by some.  And rightfully so, no where in Hebrew Scriptures, from Genesis to Revelations is the word, ‘Trinity’ used.

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